Four Horseys LLC

Four Horseys LLC Veteran-owned community improvement company enhancing the Greater St Louis area through the investment, improvement, and management of local real estate.

We have taken over our own personal pool rehab project. Here’s a comparison of work quality. Which would you prefer for ...
05/31/2026

We have taken over our own personal pool rehab project. Here’s a comparison of work quality. Which would you prefer for your own projects?

One is by a pool “pRoFeSsIoNaL” who boasts to be the “best pool dude around”. The other, I don’t make any such claims; I just take pride in the quality of our work representing Four Horseys and let the work speak for itself.

DO NOT hire Water World Pool and Spa (John Williams) of O’Fallon IL; or at least you’ve been forewarned.

“Why didn’t you just run your own project from the start?” Great question I’ve been asked. One, we’re not pool experts, though I’m rapidly becoming one. Two, we are backlogged with so many other high priority projects that I thought I could trust a pool contractor to deliver on our personal project. My costly mistake. Don’t let it become yours!

⚠️ 𝑾𝑨𝑹𝑵𝑰𝑵𝑮: 𝑫𝑶 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑼𝑺𝑬 𝑾𝑨𝑻𝑬𝑹 𝑾𝑶𝑹𝑳𝑫 𝑷𝑶𝑶𝑳 𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑺𝑷𝑨 / 𝑱𝑶𝑯𝑵 𝑾𝑰𝑳𝑳𝑰𝑨𝑴𝑺 𝑶𝑭 𝑶’𝑭𝑨𝑳𝑳𝑶𝑵 𝑰𝑳 ⚠️If you are looking for a reliable contr...
05/29/2026

⚠️ 𝑾𝑨𝑹𝑵𝑰𝑵𝑮: 𝑫𝑶 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑼𝑺𝑬 𝑾𝑨𝑻𝑬𝑹 𝑾𝑶𝑹𝑳𝑫 𝑷𝑶𝑶𝑳 𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑺𝑷𝑨 / 𝑱𝑶𝑯𝑵 𝑾𝑰𝑳𝑳𝑰𝑨𝑴𝑺 𝑶𝑭 𝑶’𝑭𝑨𝑳𝑳𝑶𝑵 𝑰𝑳 ⚠️

If you are looking for a reliable contractor to work on your pool, look elsewhere. I am writing this to protect my community, neighbors, and fellow pool owners from experiencing the absolute failure of project management, breach of contract, and property degradation that I have endured over the last several months.

I hired John Williams, independent contractor and legal representative of Water World Pool and Spa, for a major pool rehabilitation project. Despite my constant patience, flexibility, and timely payments, his operations were a disaster.

𝗢𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗲, 𝗨𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗗𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿: The owner, John Williams, is a very boastful fast talker. He talks a good game about being “the best pool guy around” and frequently makes overinflated promises “I’ll have that liner in by this Friday” which he blows right though, then makes more empty promises. He did not meet one timeline or milestone that he stated, mostly due to his poor project management and work ethic.

𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁: The photos show status of the project five weeks ago, yet I just took them yesterday. When he started mid-March he told us the project would take 3-4 weeks. He was hungry and thankful for the job, told me it had been a rough winter, and committed to putting our project first until it was done. His team started out strong for about two weeks, then things went downhill fast. There has been very little progress over the last five weeks.

𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗔𝗯𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗲𝗶𝘀𝗺: For the last five weeks, and since week 3, even during prime construction weather, this company had more total no-show days than active work days. John would frequently claim “I’ll show you I’m committed. I’ll be there every day this week” Show up the next day, then no show for several days. Followed by another promise to be on site multiple days. Often the absences were followed with a long list of excuses.

𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗿𝗼-𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗳𝘁𝘀: On the rare days he or his crew actually showed up on-site, they averaged less than 3 total hours of physical labor per day. A typical schedule: show up at 11am, take a 30 minute lunch at 12pm, close up shop by 2pm. During the entire month of May, they worked 4 or more hours exactly 3 times. We have security cameras all over our property so I logged his on site work schedule as legal proof.

𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝘆 𝗗𝗮𝗺𝗮𝗴𝗲: Because he repeatedly dragged out the timeline, the original vermiculite pool floor was unnecessarily left entirely exposed to all the rain while my project sat abandoned. My time-stamped photo logs from project start prove the floor was initially in stable condition. His chronic negligence directly caused the entire underlying pool bottom to soften, pit, and degrade—requiring extra work to patch and repair, for which he wanted to charge me an extra $4000.

𝗨𝗽 𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁 𝗣𝗮𝘆𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀: John demanded that I pay him the full project cost up front. I refused. I told him I would do 25% upon signing a contract, 50% when work begins, and 25% when I’m satisfied that all work is complete. He argued with me about this, but I held my ground. I’ve protected 25% of the total contract cost. Of the 75% paid, John is walking away from approximately 40% of paid unfinished work, which we will be pursuing through a lawsuit. On a major project, never let a contractor convince you to pay 100% up front. Always retain at least 25% until project completion.

𝗖𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁 𝗔𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁: When held accountable to a strict, line-item timeline based on our signed contracts, his response was to completely fold under pressure. Last night, he officially texted "I quit" and also yelled it at me verbally, abandoning his contractual obligations.

𝗨𝗻𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗳𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁: The owner, John Williams, often conducts himself unprofessionally on the job-site. Amongst other unprofessionalism, when speaking with him, his speech is often slurred. One time he lost his balance and almost fell in a trench. Another time when stepping into the pool, he missed his step and cracked the pool wall.

His unprofessionalism came to a head last night. I requested in text for him to bring my pool liner on site. All other equipment is already on site and there was no reason to not have the liner on-site as well, unless he was holding it hostage. It is paid in full and arrived over a month ago, so legally I own it. He refused to bring it so I offered to come to his listed business address (home based business) to get it. When I arrived John quickly became belligerent to the extent I was certain he was going to assault me. He initially refused to give me the liner and told me to call the police. Great idea! He changed his tune when I started to do so. So he told me, if I take the liner, then he quits. As I loaded the liner in my truck, he yelled at me “I quit”.

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John Williams explicitly treats high-ticket, premium renovation projects like a weekend hobby. If you want a contractor who works hard, stands by his word, and possesses the professional work ethic to finish a job on schedule, DO NOT hire Water World Pool and Spa. John chose to walk away from his obligations, and my property is left as an unfinished construction zone. Save your time, your sanity, and your hard-earned money.

Rehab of our own pool at Four Horseys Ranch is moving along nicely. WaterWorld Pool and Spa is getting after it. New cus...
04/23/2026

Rehab of our own pool at Four Horseys Ranch is moving along nicely. WaterWorld Pool and Spa is getting after it. New custom made stair entry, new decorative LED pool lights, all brand new equipment including converting it to a salt pool… and a much needed heater.

Highly recommend WaterWorld Pool and Spa for all of your swimming pool needs.

Project update. The deck resurfacing is coming along nicely. Need a deck built?
04/22/2026

Project update. The deck resurfacing is coming along nicely. Need a deck built?

Diggin Trenches. Sounds like it should be the title of a country song. 400 ft to get electrical down to a new pool heate...
04/10/2026

Diggin Trenches. Sounds like it should be the title of a country song. 400 ft to get electrical down to a new pool heater and hot tub.

Another project ongoing with the help of Water World Pool & Spa of O’Fallon. Swimming pool rehab. This is our own person...
04/08/2026

Another project ongoing with the help of Water World Pool & Spa of O’Fallon. Swimming pool rehab. This is our own personal project at Four Horseys Ranch.

Old pool was about 40 years old, pool deck was rotted and unsafe. The pool is getting a total and overhaul.

WaterWorld is doing an awesome job. Highly recommend if you’re in the market for a swimming pool.

Another new project is underway. Large old deck needs an overhaul. In addition to adding Giddyupness to our rehab homes,...
04/05/2026

Another new project is underway. Large old deck needs an overhaul. In addition to adding Giddyupness to our rehab homes, we help community members improve their own properties to maximize value and homeownership.
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The new “Jefferson House” inspiration. Last year, we visited the Dolomites in the Italian Alps, very near to Cortina whe...
02/13/2026

The new “Jefferson House” inspiration. Last year, we visited the Dolomites in the Italian Alps, very near to Cortina where the entire world is currently enjoying watching the Winter Olympics. An amazing natural beauty, the Dolomites are a site to behold. We are excited to bring the Dolomites to O’Fallon by using it as the color palette for the rebirth of the house formerly known as Jefferson House. Once the phoenix rises, it will be rebranded as the Dolomite House.

Due to severe storm damage last year, our Jefferson House is getting a complete makeover beginning with a new roof thank...
02/12/2026

Due to severe storm damage last year, our Jefferson House is getting a complete makeover beginning with a new roof thanks to Hero Roofing & Exteriors,

We love the outdoors, so our new design color scheme reflects the natural beauty of forested mountains. 🏔️🌲

Roof color is brand new this year by Owens Corning called Mountain Pine.

The house will transition to a mountain stone gray color with a flash of Forest Green cedar shake in the front gable. We might even find a way to retain a little Sun yellow in the design.

As the house rises like a phoenix, it will take on a new name to reflect the new design. What name would you give it?

Our newest investment… the Sun! We are installing an 18kW solar farm at Four Horseys Ranch. That’s a lot of Horseypower!...
07/31/2025

Our newest investment… the Sun! We are installing an 18kW solar farm at Four Horseys Ranch. That’s a lot of Horseypower!!!

Who wouldn’t want to score an annualized 20% Return on Investment (ROI)? I mean think about it. You give me $100 and in return I give you $120. Wanna play? Giddy up!

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