24/09/2026
"Are you ready to purchase curiosity? Or are you destined to purchase compliance?"
That's the question our latest podcast guest, Philippa Perryman, put to the FM industry, and it's one that's been sitting with us since we recorded.
For years, FM has been trying to earn a genuine seat at board level. Not just delivering, but shaping strategy, driving value, being part of the conversation before decisions are made rather than cleaning up after them.
But procurement still largely buys compliance. Boxes ticked, contracts signed, risk managed. Rarely curiosity. Rarely the kind of strategic thinking that actually moves a business forward.
Philippa's argument is that FM won't get taken seriously as a strategic partner until it starts positioning itself as one, not just in delivery, but in how it tells its own story, how it shows up in the room, and what it asks to be valued for.
It's a bigger conversation than one post can hold. We go deep on this, along with digital wellbeing, storytelling in FM, and why frontline teams behave more like squirrels than dominoes, on the latest episode of The Penguin Podcast with Philippa Perryman.
If you've ever felt like FM deserves more credit than it gets in the boardroom, this episode is for you.
🎧 Full episode live now on YouTube and Spotify.
https://youtu.be/NUWQ95rBXt8
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7vKFzmOOCdZIykXkIUaD6H?si=Squ4SLIeQbKl266BcuOiJQ