04/06/2026
Something I hear often from attorneys:
“I’m getting leads, but they’re not the right ones.”
Joel solved that differently.
Instead of chasing more leads, he educated them first.
Now many of his clients:
✅ Read his book
✅ Understand the process
✅ Come in ready to hire
That shift—from convincing to advising—is what really stood out to me in this interview.
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