06/23/2026
Meeting summary 6/18/26
This was a real estate investment meeting where participants shared updates and discussed various property and financial topics. Erico discussed new Return on Capital ETFs that are paying 12-13% dividends through a cover call strategy, explaining how they work by reducing cost basis while collecting premiums. Lynn Otter provided information about her mortgage financing services, particularly for investors using bank statements and DSCR programs. David Baumwald reported he's achieving 16% returns on a 4-bedroom property for $150K in Polk County, FL. The group discussed a hard money lender called Kiavi offering 7.7% rates, with Lynn explaining the differences between national and local hard money lenders. Alexander shared details about a complex foreclosure case involving three liens all in foreclosure on a condo in Miami Beach, where he represents the second mortgage holder.
Summary
Return on Capital ETF Discussion
Erico discussed new Return on Capital ETFs that pay dividends with reduced tax implications, explaining how they work by selling call options on index stocks to generate income while managing risk through diversification across NASDAQ or S&P 500 indices. He shared that these ETFs currently offer 12-13% dividends with monthly payments, having moved his investments from Treasury bonds at 3.6% to these higher-yielding options. Erico noted that while the Federal Reserve kept interest rates unchanged, some members are considering raising rates later in the year due to recent inflation concerns.
Property Tax Referendum Discussion
The group discussed a proposed referendum on the November ballot to eliminate property taxes on homesteads. Lynn shared insights from a realtor about potential impacts on the real estate market, while David Pollack expressed skepticism about the benefits for new homeowners. David Baumwald then shared his successful rental property investments, highlighting a 4-bedroom property generating $2,000 monthly in profit with minimal maintenance costs through Section 8 housing.
Hard Money Lending Options Discussion
The group discussed hard money lending options, with Alexander sharing information about Kiavi, a nationwide lender offering 7.7% rates, which surprised the group compared to typical local rates of 12%. Lynn explained that national hard money lenders source money from different investors like venture capitalists and pension funds, allowing them to offer better rates and more automated processes. Alexander also shared details about a recent challenging closing where loan funds arrived late, requiring creative solutions to complete the transaction. The conversation ended with updates about upcoming live meetings and a complex multi-mortgage foreclosure case that Alexander is handling, involving three simultaneous foreclosures including one from a condo association.
Next steps
Edison
• Find and share information about "sub-2 insurance" with the group.
• Share more details about tax delinquent/surplus fund strategies and changes at the next meeting.
• Provide updates or information about off-market properties to Eric Wilner and others interested.
Erico
• Resend the email about Return on Capital ETFs to Lynn at her correct email address.
• Call Kiavi to find out their LTV terms and share with the group.
Lynn
• Put her correct contact information in the chat for Erico and others who need to reach her.